From the very beginning, I felt that the perp(s) is/are local, and that they knew the girls through the friends and family circles. He was released on September 8, court records show. How many teams were present and which team found the girls? Talk about the helpless, right? Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. But does that mean that they are kosher slaughterhouses? ", Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. With the mystery surrounding this case, people have begun to speculate whether or not certain convicted criminals whose names make the news are actually tied to the Delphi murders. The police didn't take them seriously at the very beginning. Its very (as the kids say) cringe.. I would like to know when BP appraised that house and when the fire happened, 2 days 5 days, 2 weeks etc.? Just a thought. The motion cites the extensive media coverage as reasons for the proposed gag order. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. What do we do next. The investigation is ongoing and open, various authorities reiterated during the news conference. I dont know about the rest of you, but I am looking at that damned bear or dog or whatever it is and I am thinking, Thats a stuffed animal. If any of you all think thats not a stuffed animal and its really something else, speak up now or forever hold your tongue. Its a pretty big coincidence that both these towns have a Tyson pork processing plant nearby. I dont agree that any of these people are grifters as everyone says. In his arguments against unsealing Allen's probable cause affidavit, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland cited the need to protect the investigation as well as to protect the names of witnesses who might testify against Allen. Because this is a pending investigation, we do not have any details to share at this time., FBI Special Agent in Charge Herbert J. Stapleton. Also Thursday, the Indiana Department of Correction said Richard Allen, who has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German, has been moved to one of their facilities. "It certainly seems like it could be significant, but as to what it pertains to, I don't have a clue," said Carrie. Think about it like this. So were all just kind feeling our way and figuring out what our purpose is now. His voice sounds very like the phone recording, raspy. Wouldnt LE and Fire officials have kept a list of folks who participated in the search? Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. Doug Carter of the Indiana State Police provides an update on the Delphi murders investigation on April 22, 2019, in Delphi, Ind. The basics of personal finance, like How to save for a house. Figure out your next step toward financial freedom. Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. Just forget it. Non-uniform officers searched. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. I mean, surely folks would know if a well-known, local who became a POI was in on the search? The motive is likely to be a lot sicker than that. Supt. DELPHI, Ind. These VD animals are often holding a sign in their hands that says, I love you, or some such. Thx for the point about girls being abducted off trails and being boxed in on both sides in both cases. That bear appears to be a Valentines stuffed animal! allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams, Review the case through 5 years of reporting, Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in', Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab They certainly have my appreciation. Theyre seeing whatever they want to see in him. The revelation is included in a nine-page request for a search warrant filed March 17, 2017, a little more than one month after the murders. oh so he died recently? Well, to answer your question, Mr. X was at that 2019 press conference wearing the exact same hat that BG wears in that film. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . In addition, SPM2 also reported the same dolls hanging from trees that SPM1 report. Allen shuffled his way to the defense table wearing a yellow jumpsuit, a black ballistic vest and his hands awkwardly chained to his chest left over right. February 24, 2017 DELPHI, Ind. Press J to jump to the feed. (WISH) People in Delphi say the community is far from closure despite an arrest announcement in the 2017 murders of two girls, Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby . Good job! Libby talked to him for four months and she was starting to fall for him. I keep seeing people say it was a sunken bowl surrounded by a circle of trees. Kind of odd that the most descriptive mentions point out a circle of trees. As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. Our police sources told us that Mr. X is indeed the main suspect. A search party was formed and volunteers and police searched the wooded area surrounding the bridge until slightly after midnight when the search was called off. Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! As a psychologist though, It does makes me stop and think about LE and the types of scenes and different tragedies etc. I dont know why more people arent talking about this connection. The people paying Hughes and Greeno clearly feel that they are getting their moneys worth. Allen pleaded not guilty in a preliminary hearing, Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said in a news conference Monday. Thanks for your work and your blog. 28th was the day.. Thats one theory we are looking at. I would have thought that the name would have been accidentally leaked in town to let the families handle it if LE is unable to. State police have refused to disclose what they were searching for or may have found; however, it's believed the extensive operation is connected to Trexler's cousin, Kegan Kline. And lets keep that open out there, keep that flowing, keep the information coming in.". Allen was taken into custody on Oct. 26 by detectives on the task force after probable cause allowed it. I certainly wasnt there so I cant vouch one way or another. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. There are photos on his social media from 2015/2016 showing his tattoo, so it cannot be Libby. A public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. How could these LE men stomach watching Mr X strut around town, attending press conferences, etc? A five-and-a-half-year nationwide search for a suspect in the killings of two Indiana teens ended with the arrest of a local man, authorities said Monday.. How investigators came to arrest 50-year . The tip line number is 1-844-459-5786. Also re searchers, it was not Mr. X that found the bodies, it was actually Jake Johns. And were going to stay after it. I generally accept it however because to assume otherwise would be to assume that the entire police force and townsfolk who were in the search party waited longer than what made sense. A grifter is literally a criminal fraudster and he is breaking the law. The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony. Either LE or coroner: It was all over by 3:30 PM.. Regardless of what I could happen to "find" by searching as I stated further above in a post, if anyone needed help in my area I would surely help! I would like to remind the public that this is an active and ongoing investigation, and we will do everything we can to protect its integrity and to not try it in the court of public opinion. Im not sure how they phrased it of they told, ordered or threatened them to not reveal what they saw. Grays videos run to 3-4 hours and may contain five minutes of useful material if you are lucky during that time. Theyre seeing evil in everything where theres generally none. We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. 0:04. Citizens? Delphi was revenge for Flora. The superintendent reminded those attending and listening remotely to the press conference to continue sending any information related to the case about Allen or any other individual to the tip line set up years ago: Call 1-844-459-5786; or email abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Sadly these murderers and chomos are a dime a dozen. I have thought flora & Delphi are connected ever since I learned of the Flora Fire. Maybe because he witnessed real dolls where the girls were found? I am looking on thoughts on this guy as well. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. ", Delphi killings:4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams. "Its somewhat bittersweet," Mike Patty, grandfather of Libby, told reporters Monday gathered at the DelphiUnited Methodist Church, "knowing it allows us to move to the next turn, the next chapter. Validated through one of your LE sources? Kline replied: "I have no clue. WISH-TV was the first to break the story connecting Kline to the Anthony Shots social media profile in Dec. 2021. Any theories? At this point, this rumor seems like its proven at least to my satisfaction. This is also a problem because brains go everywhere and this is probably how those prion diseases like Mad Cow disease are spreading. Were there dogs? Great Summary! We share similar philosophies. ", The detective then asked: "So why would you worry about your DNA being on that body? ( as I said, I took this as I would a rumor-type of info and the only thing I've ever read about the crime scene. When the girls did not return to their rendezvous point, family called authorities and a search began. Privacy Policy. Its about Abby and Libby, their families and this community.. It is our theory that Mr. X stalked Libby on Snapchat for four months until the murders. So they were alone with each other, supposedly, from ~2 pm to 3.30-4 pm on a Monday afternoon. "Weve still got, now weve got a big mountain ahead of us. Before Tuesday's hearing, prosecutors filed a motion for what amounts to a gag order, asking the court to bar statements or comments outside of the courtroom from all involved attorneys, law enforcement officials, court personnel, the coroner and family members. Which brings me to the question, why not donate to our enterprise here? According to court papers, Kline was temporarily moved from the custody of his local authorities and into the hands of ISP, the lead investigators in the Delphi murders, at around the same time the river search began. How was it organized? Yes, thats one thing I am not sure about. And most of what we have reported is based on solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Thank you. The multi-agency task force working on the Delphi case is certain that the new sketch accurately depicts the face of the man who killed Abby and Libby. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces. On a day off from school Monday, Feb. 13, 2017, the teens Liberty, 14, and Abigail, 13 embarked on a hike after a sleepover the night before at Libby's house. I dont think he does. I guess the gist of it is that there were potentially hundreds of people signed up to search, citizen and LE, by the second day? Theres a part where the helicopter flies over the crime scene and some people worked forever on that and somehow got some pics out of it. In other words, that stuffed animal toy is over five feet tall! So how did you get the crime scene photo?? Arrest made in Delphi case: Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east. Also and this constantly nags at me, if LE really has one person, Mr X, in mind but just cannot resolve his alibi, wouldnt that name get around in a small town? But werent the FBI involved from the start? Those four words have been used by family and community members to keep attention on the case as it remained unsolved. The agent said Logan claimed someone drove him to an aquarium store in Lafayette on the afternoon of February 13 at the time the girls disappeared. If its the same guy I think hes a hunter who worked for Tyson. There were no stuffed animals in trees. However, here is my argument for him as the BG: He does resemble the man in the video, particularly the short lower leg area. Because he seems to be quite the liar to me," she charged. How do we help.". You would think that a bunch of dolls hanging from the trees and stuffed animals would draw a lot of attention to the killzone if not at night then at least when the lights came back on. Who were they? Problem is that CSI cop NM was the one providing the alibi for Mr. X, so that theory doesnt work. Allen, 50, was charged on two counts of. This is an article with a description of the search - and pictures taken during the search (the day murder victims Abby and Libby were found). A number of those slaughterhouses around there are indeed operated by Orthodox Jews. It's a development loved ones of Libby German and Abby Williams have long prayed for: charges filed in connection to the Delphi murder investigation. The girls were reported missing to police at 5:30 pm. I am very curious to know what you think people are getting wrong as to Chadwells behavior and videos (both are which are undeniably creepy). Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does. They saw something horrendous that day. Richard Allen, 50, was charged with the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi, Ind., in February 2017. Speculation has mounted that Kline may be working on a plea deal with prosecutors, though it's still unknown if the search is related to his child porn case or the Delphi murders. We have never given up. I will have to look it up again. Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the. Hi Robert. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Rachel Fradette is a general assignment reporter at IndyStar. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. Also close friends with Ron Logan and Tobe Lozenby! Photo: Courtesy Mike and Becky Patty. The document was written by an FBI agent and describes what investigators found when they discovered the bodies of Abby and Libby on Feb. 14, 2017. As Carter said, This is about power to you.. Is this confirmed? A 50-year-old suspect identified as Richard Allen has been arrested and booked into . Sarah Larimer contributed to this report. DELPHI, Ind. Prosecutors fueled speculation during Tuesday's hearing that Richard Allen was not alone when they allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams in early 2017. Thats why Carter was so livid that night because their main suspect was right there in the room. And thats not even the start of the weirdness. Were not doing that anymore. A Valentines bear makes sense. Note that she pluralized the noun. LE? During a search of Allen's home on Oct. 13, 2022, officers found knives and guns, including a "Sig Sauer, Model P226, .40-caliber pistol," the probable cause affidavit said. Carroll County judge recuses himself in Delphi murders. 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